C.E. Niehoff & Co. N1225-1/N1237-1/N1505-1 Troubleshooting Guides User Manual

C.E. Niehoff & Co. Hardware

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Table of Contents

Section 1: Wiring Diagram ........................................2
Section 2: Basic Troubleshooting .............................3
Section 3: Advanced Troubleshooting ................ 4 – 6

Battery Conditions

Until temperatures of electrical

system components stabilize, these

conditions may be observed during cold start voltage tests.

• Maintenance/low maintenance battery:

— Immediately after engine starts, system volts

are lower than regulator setpoint with medium

amps.

— 3-5 minutes into charge cycle, higher system

volts and reduced amps.

— 5-10 minutes into charge cycle, system volts

are at, or nearly at, regulator setpoint, and

amps are reduced to a minimum.

— Low maintenance battery has same charac-

teristics with slightly longer recharge times.

• Maintenance-free battery:

— Immediately after engine start, system volts

are lower than regulator setpoint with low

charging amps.

— 15-30 minutes into charge cycle, still low volts

and low amps.

— 15-30 minutes into charge cycle, volts increase

several tenths. Amps increase gradually, then

quickly to medium to high amps.

— 20-35 minutes into charge cycle, volts increase

to setpoint and amps decrease.

• High-cycle maintenance-free battery:

— These batteries respond better than standard

maintenance-free. Charge acceptance of these

batteries may display characteristics similar to

maintenance batteries.

NOTICE

Hazard Definitions

These terms are used to bring attention to presence of hazards of

various risk levels or to important information concerning product
life.

Indicates presence of hazards

that will or can cause minor personal

injury or property damage if ignored.

Indicates special instructions

on installation, operation or mainte-

nance that are important but not related to

personal injury hazards.

CAUTION

NOTICE

Troubleshooting Guide

for N1225-1/N1237-1/N1505-1 Alternators

Charge Volt and Amp Values

The volt and amp levels are a function of the battery
state of charge. If batteries are in a state of discharge,
as after extended cranking time to start the engine, the
system volts, when measured after the engine is started

will be lower than the regulator setpoint and the system
amps will be high. This is a normal condition for the
charging system. The measured values of system volts

and amps will depend on the level of battery discharge. In
other words, the greater the battery discharge level, the

lower the system volts and higher the system amps will
be. The volt and amp readings will change, system volts
reading will increase up to regulator setpoint and the sys-

tem amps will decrease to low level (depending on other
loads) as the batteries recover and become fully charged.

Low Amps: A minimum or lowest charging system

amp value required to maintain battery state of
charge, obtained when testing the charging system

with a fully charged battery and no other loads ap-
plied. This value will vary with battery type.

Medium Amps: A system amps value which can

cause the battery temperature to rise above the
adequate charging temperature within 4-8 hours of
charge time. To prevent battery damage, the charge
amps should be reduced when battery temperature
rises. Check battery manufacturer’s recommenda-
tions for proper rates of charge amps.

High Amps: A system amps value which can cause

the battery temperature to rise above adequate charg-
ing temperature within 2-3 hours. To prevent battery
damage the charge amps should be reduced when

the battery temperature rises. Check battery manu-
facturer’s recommendations for proper rates
of charge amps.

Battery Voltage: Steady-state voltage value as mea-

sured with battery in open circuit with no battery

load. This value relates to battery state of charge.

Charge Voltage: A voltage value obtained when the

charging system is operating. This value will be higher

than battery voltage and must never exceed the regu-

lator voltage setpoint.

B+ Voltage: A voltage value obtained when measuring

voltage at battery positive terminal or alternator B+

terminal.

Surface Charge: A higher than normal battery volt-

age occurring when the battery is removed from a

battery charger. The surface charge must be removed
to determine true battery voltage and state of charge.

Significant Magnetism: A change in the strength or

intensity of a magnetic field present in the alterna-

tor rotor shaft when the field coil is energized. The

magnetic field strength when the field coil is energized
should feel stronger than when the field is not ener-

gized.

Voltage Droop or Sag: A normal condition which

occurs when the load demand on the alternator is
greater than rated alternator output at given rotor
shaft RPM.

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